Norsca Union League

The Archives => Archives => NUL Season 4! => Topic started by: J-Reedy on October 14, 2011, 09:35:50 PM

Title: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: J-Reedy on October 14, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
New week and final matches are ready to be played:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa386/J-Reedy/S4_MD5.png)

NattBowlarna and Jungle_Boogie share the lead with 8 points, Cougar Kittens are third with 7 points and Staffans Hooligang fourth with 6 points. So Hooligang and Kittens are rooting for Other Brothers and Flying Boom Bats BK to rob some points from the top teams! Go Boom Bats! Hakkaa päälle Other Brothers!
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: J-Reedy on October 14, 2011, 09:37:45 PM
Staffan, I noted that you'll be away until the 23rd, let me know when you'll get back and we'll see if we are to be playing for the playoff spot or just for glory.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Mr B on October 15, 2011, 11:52:24 PM
Yo, Konna, when do you think we can play?

Cheers!
/B
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 16, 2011, 05:46:53 PM
Krim, we are up! Got a whole bunch rodents that will miss next match so this will likely be a stroll for ya - but I trust in luck, the Horned one and a big fist of nuffling on your half. So which day can I crush you ;) ?

I'm available most days this week after 1930 Swedish time (CET) - not Friday and the weekend can be tough, possibly early Sunday.

Cheers,

/ Rot
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 16, 2011, 10:55:42 PM
Hey Rotty =)

tuesday or thursday 20:00 ?
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Konna on October 17, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
Hey Bantha. Tomorrow (tue) or wednesday evenings would be best for me. Maybe thursday if those won't work out. Almost any time between 18 and 21 CET should be ok.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 17, 2011, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on October 16, 2011, 10:55:42 PM
Hey Rotty =)

tuesday or thursday 20:00 ?

Tuesday at 20 will suit me fine. Bring the pain!!  ::)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 17, 2011, 05:44:11 PM
deal!  :o
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Mr B on October 17, 2011, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Konna on October 17, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
Hey Bantha. Tomorrow (tue) or wednesday evenings would be best for me. Maybe thursday if those won't work out. Almost any time between 18 and 21 CET should be ok.
Great, lets plan for Tuesday then shall we?
20:00 cest is that a good starting hour for you?

BR
/B
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Konna on October 17, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: Mr B on October 17, 2011, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: Konna on October 17, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
Hey Bantha. Tomorrow (tue) or wednesday evenings would be best for me. Maybe thursday if those won't work out. Almost any time between 18 and 21 CET should be ok.
Great, lets plan for Tuesday then shall we?
20:00 cest is that a good starting hour for you?

BR
/B

Sounds good. See you on the pitch!
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 18, 2011, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on October 17, 2011, 05:44:11 PM
deal!  :o

Yo Krim, sorry for the techy fizzle, I've modded and haxxed and re-scripted the hardware to my router now (i.e. fiddled with the port forward again) and may have found a solution to the connection prob.

Let's try again when you have time, can you play tomorrow Wednesday? Otherwise let's try Thurs as you said - 20:00?

Cheers,

/ Rot
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 18, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
are you online now?
I've made another deal thursday
and Im away friday 21st to 27th (both included)
so if we could try again now, its for the best 0)

I'll look again @ 21.30
aaand again @ 22.00 :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 18, 2011, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on October 18, 2011, 09:02:37 PM
are you online now?
I've made another deal thursday
and Im away friday 21st to 27th (both included)
so if we could try again now, its for the best 0)

I'll look again @ 21.30
aaand again @ 22.00 :)

Doh! Sorry, missed your entry.  :P  So, you can play tomorrow Wednesday then ? *hope *:)
Otherwise we have to allow Nuffle (Mr. B and associates) to determine the outcome due to this technical daemon curse.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 18, 2011, 10:54:36 PM
cant play tomorrow (well never could)
I have some time monday between 13:00 and 15:00 (starting time) and MIGHT have time sunday around 22:00 .. else its friday 28th

Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 19, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
Hmm.. Since I'm a working class hero that makes it kind of difficult. It only leaves Friday 28th, which means the match day will be delayed. Its up to the admin to decide then. I'm fine with a technical draw, even if I'd preferred a real game loss  ;)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 19, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
I on the other hand cant accept a tie :)
not when the connection problem is on my opponnent  :-*
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 19, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
Oh, well it is not 100% certain it is the Boom bats fault - since they have been able to play all matches so far, not counting Mr B and you.  ;)

But I can accept a technical loss if the admin thinks it is Ok - no worries.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: staffan on October 23, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
J-reedy , I can play tonight (sunday) from Swedish time- 20.30 !

Otherwise monday might work around the same time !

/S
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: J-Reedy on October 23, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: staffan on October 23, 2011, 02:37:49 PM
J-reedy , I can play tonight (sunday) from Swedish time- 20.30 !

Otherwise monday might work around the same time !

/S

Can't make it today, but on monday I should be free sometime after 20.30.  Shall we say monday 21 Swedish at the latest? I'll try to get there as early as possible.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: staffan on October 23, 2011, 07:53:26 PM
QuoteShall we say monday 21 Swedish at the latest? I'll try to get there as early as possible.

ok !

It should work !

/S
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 26, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
so .. Rotty lets try connecting again shall we? 0)
saturday or sunday between 12:00 - 15:00 ?
monday from 19.00 ?

Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 26, 2011, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on October 26, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
so .. Rotty lets try connecting again shall we? 0)
saturday or sunday between 12:00 - 15:00 ?
monday from 19.00 ?



Welcome home :)

I'm away Fri, Sat and will be back Sun after 20:00. Monday at approx 19:30 would work for me - is it a Go for your ? (Ain't home from work until then).

/ Rot
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on October 26, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
jesus Im a noob - totally forgot monday is my birthday
tuesday same time?  ::)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on October 27, 2011, 05:47:18 PM
I forget my birthday each year as well, typical age sign  ;)

Tuesday 1930 is a date.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on November 01, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
cyanide wont let us play the last game  :-\ (tried last week aswell)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on November 01, 2011, 07:53:18 PM
Sad day - me and Krim can't seem to establish a connection at all. This despite that I have tried to tweak my system and found an obscure port that apparently affected some coaches, which I forwarded as well.

I'm not sure how a Cup works but if only the top 2 teams battle in a final this game could prove interesting. If Krim would have won he would be one of the top teams, draw or lost game would mean not.

Personally I quite sure I would have lost, considering my previous experience against amazons and Krim. But the auto resolution has to be decided by admin.

I'm quite sure this seems to be some permanent error but I have no freaking clue why. But I have a small nagging feeling it is on my end. I've tried every trick on the Internet - but no success.

Sorry for the mess.

/ Rot
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Mr B on November 01, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
Well, I had to take a draw also.
I'd guess there are not much more to but a Admin 1-1.

Comments?
Anyone?

/B
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: JerXou on November 02, 2011, 12:04:18 AM
Throw a dice  ;D naw i really dont know what to say.. personally i would not accept the draw either. I guess its up to admin.. too bad though  :( harsh game..
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Rotty on November 02, 2011, 03:33:03 PM
Mr B is correct as well. He whacked me properly our last game but got a draw when we couldn't connect either. A krim win now could prove unfair.

Got no solution other than the top teams have to agree how to solve.

My cent :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: J-Reedy on November 02, 2011, 06:05:20 PM
Seems to be quite a pickle we have here and personally I don't like pickles, they have too much vinegar. I really have to disqualify myself from answering this question, as I'm the coach of the team that would benefit the most if the decision was tie. But I have to say that a tie (or a loss to Krim) would've been a bit of a surprise if the game had been played (no offence meant Rotty, just looking at the team stats), so I'm OK with any decision be it a win or a tie for Krim.


For future games we really have to decide on a rule for the results on these connection issues.





Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: The Golden Arrow on November 02, 2011, 07:40:31 PM
OK as the only admin that is totally unaffected by this game I guess it falls to me. As I see it we cannot rule this differently just because it's one of the best teams that are affected and we obviously don't know the result for sure.

Therefore I must say that the only possible solution is to make the game a 1-1 tie. I know this is not a favorable solution, but all solutions are bad and this is the only was to rule this and still have some chance to solve similar problems consistently in the future.
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on November 02, 2011, 10:21:12 PM
I agree and dont :)
agree because the "rule of tie" has been used in a previous example
when its up for a vote on how the rule is going to be I strongly vote for wins on the teams that clearly has nothing to do with the conn. problems :)

its all good, but we need to ask this question before next season :)
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Mr B on November 02, 2011, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on November 02, 2011, 10:21:12 PM
its all good, but we need to ask this question before next season :)
Yupp, that is crystal!

But how shall we solve this?
Even talking about this problems in the upcoming seasons I do not really have a clue, or a strong reason to do, this or that way.
I mean, who's the guilty one?
I have had port problems in other groups and neither of us has any problems playing other games.
But between A&B it just isn't possible.
I cannot blame A and not B, they clearly play both vs others.
That's why I vote for a 1-1.

Just my point of view..
/B
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: krim_nielsen on November 02, 2011, 10:48:23 PM
if thats the case then its a solid argument for 1-1's
I just thought getting the message "somethings fucked with a router port" it coulndt be me, since I dont have a router :)

Im not used to these problems so I have no experience in this area, but there are games with coaches that simply wont match no matter what they do?
Title: Re: Season 4 Match 5 - Valhalla Cup
Post by: Mr B on November 02, 2011, 11:04:08 PM
Quote from: krim_nielsen on November 02, 2011, 10:48:23 PM
if thats the case then its a solid argument for 1-1's
I just thought getting the message "somethings fucked with a router port" it coulndt be me, since I dont have a router :)

Im not used to these problems so I have no experience in this area, but there are games with coaches that simply wont match no matter what they do?
Yupp, I am not sure what problems Cyanide have but the default message cannot be trusted.
I have had games starting like yours.. restart (logout/in) and challenge fast and whoops the game starts and nobody did nothing it just suddenly works.. so I do not trust the message...
*if not able to start print "Blabla port problems blabla!"*
Sounds good then we do not have to take the blame.. go for that and then we fix the problem in a patch.........