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Title: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 04:20:59 AM
And another extremely fast match week, so we're off to week 3:

Feeder:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa386/J-Reedy/S9_feed-3_zps91d2004a.png)

Ull's:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa386/J-Reedy/S9_ulls-3_zpsb6465267.png)

Sorry for the lack of stories but I've been busy at work and playing Sandy Claws' little helper.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 04:24:59 AM
All righty Gnaar, time for your micemen to trash my guys who keep pretending to be fish on a dry land. As I mentioned earlier, I'll be away couple of days for Christmas, so my OK starting times (GMT+1/CET) look as follows:

- Saturday 19-22
- Wednesday (26th) 17-
- Thursday to Saturday - any time, I'm on a sweeeeet-sweeeeeet holiday

Let me know if any of those times suits you, sir.

Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 21, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Right guys, I can play tonight. After that things will get harder. I might be able to get a game in, but I probably won't be able to tell you too far in advance.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 21, 2012, 09:54:47 AM
Hi Luiggi

I can play tonight, saturday and sunday whenever, then there is two days off (mon/tue) due to christmas but from 26/12 and forward I can currently play whenever, although I expect that to change later on.

/Hakos
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 21, 2012, 10:42:58 AM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 21, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Right guys, I can play tonight. After that things will get harder. I might be able to get a game in, but I probably won't be able to tell you too far in advance.
Tonight is a no-go, but I could get a game in tomorrow (Saturday) within an hour or two of warning. After that I'll be gone until the evening on the 26th, and should probably do the planning then if tomorrow's not good for you.

-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: tags on December 21, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
Lasseman, I don't think I can find time to play until 27th now. I can play mostly any time 27th-30th I think.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 21, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: Barmution on December 21, 2012, 10:42:58 AM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 21, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Right guys, I can play tonight. After that things will get harder. I might be able to get a game in, but I probably won't be able to tell you too far in advance.
Tonight is a no-go, but I could get a game in tomorrow (Saturday) within an hour or two of warning. After that I'll be gone until the evening on the 26th, and should probably do the planning then if tomorrow's not good for you.

-Barm
That's probably not possible since I will be heading home to my family tomorrow and I don't think they would appreciate it :P We'll see how things look after christmas.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 21, 2012, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 21, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
That's probably not possible since I will be heading home to my family tomorrow and I don't think they would appreciate it :P We'll see how things look after christmas.
No problem, mate. Have a merry christmas!
-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on December 21, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
Have a good one!
Goldie, see you later might be next year.. on the field I'd guess.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Gnaarkill on December 21, 2012, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 04:24:59 AM
All righty Gnaar, time for your micemen to trash my guys who keep pretending to be fish on a dry land. As I mentioned earlier, I'll be away couple of days for Christmas, so my OK starting times (GMT+1/CET) look as follows:

- Saturday 19-22
- Wednesday (26th) 17-
- Thursday to Saturday - any time, I'm on a sweeeeet-sweeeeeet holiday

Let me know if any of those times suits you, sir.



Hiya J-R!

These are busy times  :P so before christmas will be pretty hard to get a match going. But can we book thursday @12.00 (GMT+1/CET) preliminary? I will give you a heads up if my schedule collides but i think that time is alright, at least for now :P

/Gnaarkill
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 21, 2012, 06:48:10 PM
Hiya J-R!

These are busy times  :P so before christmas will be pretty hard to get a match going. But can we book thursday @12.00 (GMT+1/CET) preliminary? I will give you a heads up if my schedule collides but i think that time is alright, at least for now :P

/Gnaarkill

Yep, the times are as busy as a horny bee in an untouched field of flowers. Just to prove the point, I just spent 6 hours running from a store to another. But anyways, Thursday at 12 works for me, I'll mark that down. Have yourself a Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Lars on December 22, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: kvasilad on December 21, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
Lasseman, I don't think I can find time to play until 27th now. I can play mostly any time 27th-30th I think.

I will come back to you about a time in one of those days
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Gnaarkill on December 22, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 21, 2012, 06:48:10 PM
Hiya J-R!

These are busy times  :P so before christmas will be pretty hard to get a match going. But can we book thursday @12.00 (GMT+1/CET) preliminary? I will give you a heads up if my schedule collides but i think that time is alright, at least for now :P

/Gnaarkill

Yep, the times are as busy as a horny bee in an untouched field of flowers. Just to prove the point, I just spent 6 hours running from a store to another. But anyways, Thursday at 12 works for me, I'll mark that down. Have yourself a Merry Christmas!

Thank you J-Reedy and the same to you!

And to everyone else, have a merry x-mas!   ;D

/Gnaarkill
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 22, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 21, 2012, 09:54:47 AM
Hi Luiggi

I can play tonight, saturday and sunday whenever, then there is two days off (mon/tue) due to christmas but from 26/12 and forward I can currently play whenever, although I expect that to change later on.

/Hakos


Hiya. I have a busy schedule as well (quite logical at this time of the year), so I think we'll have to wait until next week to schedule our game after Christmas Eve. I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 23, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: Luiggi on December 22, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 21, 2012, 09:54:47 AM
Hi Luiggi

I can play tonight, saturday and sunday whenever, then there is two days off (mon/tue) due to christmas but from 26/12 and forward I can currently play whenever, although I expect that to change later on.

/Hakos


Hiya. I have a busy schedule as well (quite logical at this time of the year), so I think we'll have to wait until next week to schedule our game after Christmas Eve. I'll keep you posted.

N.P. Have a Merry Christmas

/Hakos
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on December 24, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Merry X-Mas everyone!
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: tags on December 24, 2012, 09:00:16 AM
Happy Yuletide all around :D
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Lars on December 26, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
God Jul

kvasilad are you abel to play the 27th at 20:00?

/Lars
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Gnaarkill on December 26, 2012, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 21, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 21, 2012, 06:48:10 PM
Hiya J-R!

These are busy times  :P so before christmas will be pretty hard to get a match going. But can we book thursday @12.00 (GMT+1/CET) preliminary? I will give you a heads up if my schedule collides but i think that time is alright, at least for now :P

/Gnaarkill

Yep, the times are as busy as a horny bee in an untouched field of flowers. Just to prove the point, I just spent 6 hours running from a store to another. But anyways, Thursday at 12 works for me, I'll mark that down. Have yourself a Merry Christmas!

Hi there J-R!

Hope you had a good x-mas!?
Im sorry to say that i cant make it to tomorrows game unfortunatly. I have been spending christmas in another city and will not be home for our scheduled match. I can not make it to 12.00 but i will be home again in the evening. So if it works for you, maybe we can re-schedule it to 21.00?
I will not be able to check your answer, so i can not confirm your reply until im at my home again. But i will check the forum as soon as im home again tomorrow. So if the time doesnt suit you i will be able to reply to you again tomorrow evening.

Sorry for the late respons! I havent had accsess to the forums until now.
See you tomorrow hopefully!

/Gnaarkill
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: tags on December 27, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: Lars on December 26, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
God Jul

kvasilad are you abel to play the 27th at 20:00?

/Lars

God jul! Yup, should be able to play in about 20 hours, see you then :)
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 27, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
Hi Luiggi

It seems Saturday (29) and Sunday (30) just got very busy for me.

That means I can play today (thursday) or tomorrow (friday) and after that not until next week. Let me know when you are available.

/Hakos
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: J-Reedy on December 27, 2012, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 26, 2012, 11:15:21 PM
Hope you had a good x-mas!?
Im sorry to say that i cant make it to tomorrows game unfortunatly. I have been spending christmas in another city and will not be home for our scheduled match. I can not make it to 12.00 but i will be home again in the evening. So if it works for you, maybe we can re-schedule it to 21.00?
I will not be able to check your answer, so i can not confirm your reply until im at my home again. But i will check the forum as soon as im home again tomorrow. So if the time doesnt suit you i will be able to reply to you again tomorrow evening.

No problems, christmas was very relaxing and as I'm on holiday until new year, I'm free to play whenever. So 21.00 today Thursday works fine for me! See you later in the evening.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 27, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
Hi guys, I can play tonight lateish (say from 22 or so). Other that that I can probably get a game in on sunday and apart from new years eve I have nothing planned next week (tuesday to friday).
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 27, 2012, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 27, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
Hi guys, I can play tonight lateish (say from 22 or so). Other that that I can probably get a game in on sunday and apart from new years eve I have nothing planned next week (tuesday to friday).
Consider yourself officially hogged at 22 tonight, then  ;D

Time to see if your Troll wants to smack around some poor Hobos!
-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 27, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 27, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
Hi Luiggi

It seems Saturday (29) and Sunday (30) just got very busy for me.

That means I can play today (thursday) or tomorrow (friday) and after that not until next week. Let me know when you are available.

/Hakos


All right, let's try it on Friday. Any time between 17.00 and 20.00 GMT +1 works for me, so choose a time and I'll be there.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Lars on December 27, 2012, 07:49:48 PM
Quote from: kvasilad on December 27, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: Lars on December 26, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
God Jul

kvasilad are you abel to play the 27th at 20:00?

/Lars

God jul! Yup, should be able to play in about 20 hours, see you then :)

kvasild can we pospone the match for an hour it seems that i failed with the update of the bloodbowl client on my laptop before i went on christmas vecation  the update are at 25% now and with the speed i got at the moment it should be ready at 21:00

/Lars
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: tags on December 27, 2012, 08:02:47 PM
Hmm, ok, should be doable!
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 27, 2012, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: Luiggi on December 27, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 27, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
Hi Luiggi

It seems Saturday (29) and Sunday (30) just got very busy for me.

That means I can play today (thursday) or tomorrow (friday) and after that not until next week. Let me know when you are available.

/Hakos


All right, let's try it on Friday. Any time between 17.00 and 20.00 GMT +1 works for me, so choose a time and I'll be there.

Great, let's start as early as possible then, 17:00.

/Hakos
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 27, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
Ok, I'm off to do something else, Golden. Shall we give it a shot at Sunday?

-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: tags on December 27, 2012, 10:33:45 PM
A very hard-fought 1-0 victory to the Disorganized over the Chaotic dudes. A very bashy game, which saw my +ag goat get -st, to make him even more elf-like, and my star carrier get a niggling injury. My next opponent will get something close to a walkover I suspect ;D

(http://bbm.jcmag.fr/BloodBowlManager.WebSite/ImageMatchReport.aspx?Id=205774&lang=en)
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 27, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
Quote from: Barmution on December 27, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
Ok, I'm off to do something else, Golden. Shall we give it a shot at Sunday?

-Barm
Yeah lets do that, I got held up elsewhere and didn't have computer access :( When does it fit you on sunday?
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 28, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 27, 2012, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: Luiggi on December 27, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Quote from: hakos on December 27, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
Hi Luiggi

It seems Saturday (29) and Sunday (30) just got very busy for me.

That means I can play today (thursday) or tomorrow (friday) and after that not until next week. Let me know when you are available.

/Hakos



All right, let's try it on Friday. Any time between 17.00 and 20.00 GMT +1 works for me, so choose a time and I'll be there.

Great, let's start as early as possible then, 17:00.

/Hakos

I'm around, in case you wanna start even earlier. I'll check every 15 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 28, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Logging in now
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 28, 2012, 06:14:55 PM
Man, tell me you didn't just crash on turn 15...
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 28, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
Fuck, the game crashed in turn 15 :( what to do now???

First time the game crashed for me during a live match by the way...
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 28, 2012, 06:22:00 PM
Ouch, that sucks. Well if the game crashes there's nothing you can do. Sometimes if only the connection crashes you might be able to get it back up on time and reconnect, but that's a gamble too...

It's too bad that you crashed so late in the game, with both your werewolves way back it would have been hard to score in 2 turns... I don't know. The client is giving me a 2-0 win but it's unfair, especially because of your missing cash and MVP, plus the extra "free" spp (though 1 went for the dead snotling, I think actually, 1 mvp and 1 td went to the dead guy, so no extra spp for me :D) and cash that I get. However I've been on the other end of "fairness" in other seasons... so I don't really know.

How do you and the rest see it? Hakos receives on turn 15, 1-0 for me, 10 necros vs 4 ogres and 2 snotlings, 1 reroll for me, none for hakos. In all honesty I think a draw would have been really unlikely, especially with 2 break tackle ogres at my backfield. I don't feel like replaying it either since I'll be quite busy these next days...

What do you think?
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 28, 2012, 06:34:53 PM
This really sucks.

The match was very fun and fast, 3 dead (2 of my players, but they regenerated) maybe 10 or eleven injuries, but my guys were regenerating everything. Lots of failed dodges and ball pickups made everything total chaos. I was gonna lose 0-1 since I lost one werewolf to a bug when setting up for t15. if no bug I might have gotten a 1-1 draw, even though it was unlikely. As Luiggi says.

I have been lucky with cash before so I do not mind losing the gold that much.

I have no problem losing the match but I really hate losing the SPP. I was about to level my flesh golem and two other players got up to 5 SPP each without the MVP being distributed. In total I think I just lost ~17 SPP.

I would definitely prefer to play this match again. Not to be able to win but to give my team the same chance to evolve as all others that face the snotlings.

I could play later this evening or sunday evening, lets say from 16 and forward.

If it is not possible to find a time or if we do not want to extend MD3 I guess I just have to suck it up, but as I said, I would really like a replay.

Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 28, 2012, 06:50:44 PM
Oh, but you still keep the SPP gained throughout the match. That means your golem and wight will level up. Unless they changed it. So technically you only lose 5 spp because of the MVP.

If someone can confirm this I guess you'd have no problems with not replaying the game... am I right? :D

QuoteNot to be able to win but to give my team the same chance to evolve as all others that face the snotlings.

That's really offensive for my little dudes, pray that we don't play again or they'll be showing you such pain not even a 7 will regenerate that :P Mwahahahaha.


PS Edit: Anyway, if you want to make sure, we can always get an Auld game going, make a pass on turn 1, then crash, and see if the spp is still there... Just an idea, heh.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: hakos on December 28, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
Aah, if I only lose the 5 MVP and keep the other SPP then I can live with this result. I.e. no replay.

As I said, I was about to lose anyway and I have gotten 80k + 70k gold in the first two matches so the gold loss does not hurt that much and I still have 2 matches left to try to win.

Does this mean that injuries will remain even in this case? Meaning your snotling is dead, etc.

Edit: no need to try it out, if you say so and someone backs it up, then it is ok for me. If the match stands, can you upload to BB Manager?
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Luiggi on December 28, 2012, 08:34:03 PM
I've already uploaded it. Yes, my snotling should be dead. You don't have to worry for your dead werewolf, dead zombie and -agi zombie, though :P Bloody regeneration!
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 28, 2012, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 27, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
Quote from: Barmution on December 27, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
Ok, I'm off to do something else, Golden. Shall we give it a shot at Sunday?

-Barm
Yeah lets do that, I got held up elsewhere and didn't have computer access :( When does it fit you on sunday?
I can do either early, starting 12.00, or late, starting at 21.00 or 22.00. Does either of these match your availability?
-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Gnaarkill on December 28, 2012, 08:57:43 PM
And...
Yesterday a very even match between the Warpstoned Maniaks and the Finned Marine Mammals was played.  :)

Here are some stats from the match, enjoy!  :D
(http://bbm.jcmag.fr/BloodBowlManager.WebSite/ImageMatchReport.aspx?Id=205776&lang=en)

Thank you for the match J-Reedy!

/Gnaarkill
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on December 29, 2012, 12:04:15 AM
Nice games folks, so golden shall we take our dance next year then?

/B
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 29, 2012, 01:40:38 PM
Quote from: Barmution on December 28, 2012, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 27, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
Quote from: Barmution on December 27, 2012, 10:18:30 PM
Ok, I'm off to do something else, Golden. Shall we give it a shot at Sunday?

-Barm
Yeah lets do that, I got held up elsewhere and didn't have computer access :( When does it fit you on sunday?
I can do either early, starting 12.00, or late, starting at 21.00 or 22.00. Does either of these match your availability?
-Barm

Late sounds best, shall we say 22?
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 29, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Quote from: The Golden Arrow on December 29, 2012, 01:40:38 PM
Late sounds best, shall we say 22?
You got yourself a date!  ;)
-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 29, 2012, 09:37:53 PM
Yep it's a date.

Quote from: Mr B on December 29, 2012, 12:04:15 AM
Nice games folks, so golden shall we take our dance next year then?

/B

OK what about first of January? You never do anything then anyway. In the afternoon/evening in that case.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on December 30, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Evening around 21 Should work yes.
/B
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on December 30, 2012, 08:43:52 PM
I might be booked on Tuesday, not sure yet. Will come back to you.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Barmution on December 30, 2012, 11:54:09 PM
A severely one-sided affair dice-wise sees the Mad Science Fair run off with a 3-0 victory over the Warpstone Plumbers.

Thanks for the game and here's to hoping your dice doesn't betray you quite as much in your next matches, mate!

And to everyone a happy new year!
-Barm
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on January 01, 2013, 08:52:17 PM
OK I can play now, see you on the pitch :)
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on January 01, 2013, 08:58:35 PM
I'm online and waiting...  :o
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on January 01, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
After connection issues we had to reshedual the match to next monday :(
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on January 06, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
And this will be the last try, I remember we had problems last time also.
If we cannot get the game going I will draw the game so we can move on.

/B
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on January 07, 2013, 08:50:24 PM
CYANIDE:
Server migration : January 2013

We inform you there will be a migration of Blood Bowl servers in January 2013.

Cyanide and Focus are working on migrating the online platform to the Cyanide's solution because Quazal - the company providing online support - was bought by Ubisoft 2 years ago and will stop their support early 2013.

All your teams will be preserved.

More details soon!
**************
I guess we cannot play tonight then... Crap, I'm available first on Thursday.. Shall we take a draw or?
It's only affecting us in our group.. Might be no biggie to wait, wait or not?

/B
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: The Golden Arrow on January 07, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
it seems to work, at least I managed to come into the lobby.
Title: Re: Season 9 - DAY 3 MATCHES
Post by: Mr B on January 07, 2013, 09:20:46 PM
Jepp, it worked now, however it's not possible to get the game to connect, tragic but we had to take actions so we went for a draw.

Day forwarded for both Groups.
/B