OK, as the most enthusiastic have already started picking teams, it's time to kick off the signup for the Season 18:
Official Stuff
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- This season is for new (or relatively new) teams so there will be a TV limit of 1200.
- Only new teams or teams that have been played in previous NUL-leagues.
- League will be played with normal 1 match week per 1 real-time week pace.
- As last season, we'll be enforcing the rule that if you don't show up to play a game on agreed time AND you don't tell about your absense at least an hour before the match in the forum, you'll forfeit the game with an 2-0 admin loss to your opponent who is waiting for you.
- ALL NEW COACHES ARE WELCOME! This is your chance of glory with everyone on an even start!
INSTRUCTIONS FOR NEW COACHES:
1. Read the introductory thread with the explanation on league structure HERE (http://norscaleague.com/index.php?topic=3.0).
2: Create an account on this forum. Note that due to high activity from spam-bots, admins have to approve your account before you can post here. This shouldn't take longer than a day or two. And please don't use any id's or e-mail addresses that look spambotty like (e.g. "adman745" or "erxcvethxddy") or you might be mistaken as a bot.
3: Post a reply in this thread that you want to join.
4: Read the "Essential rules" section HERE (http://norscaleague.com/index.php?topic=65.0) and post a reply in that thread that you have understood the rules.
5: The admin team will add you on the participant list in this post.
OLD Coaches now the drill, just tell what team you'll be taking to the trophy hunt.
ABOUT THE TIMETABLE
Season 17 regular season should wrap up by the end of November and then it's just 2 rounds of playoffs. Let's give about week for the team signups in the game, so we should be able to get the season 18 going somewhere around the second/third week of December.
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I will join with a new team. I'll pick some race I haven't played before or have played just a little and which nobody else has chosen.
Sign Ups:
1. Kvasilad - The Phin Phighters (Lizardmen)
2. Equilibri - World of Cheese (Skaven)
3. J-Reedy - Da Beatmores (Orcs) - might change if somebody else takes the orcs (as I'm a proponent for diversity with the teams)
4. Mr B - ? (Vampires)
5. The Golden Arrow - ? (Dark Elfs maybe)
6. Kezerk - Kauppaopiston Opet (Vampires)
7. Gnaarkill - Ogre Kingdoms Wrestling Federation (Ogre)
8. Barmution - The Emperor's New Boots (Human)
9. Hakos - FC Excelsior (High Elfs)
10. Lars - ? (Chaos Dwarfs)
11. Luiggi - ? (Goblins)
12. Muller71 - Beerbelly (Dwarfs)
13. ... your name and team here! ...
I will join with Lizardmen team The Phin Phighters (if that name is free), still mulling over the starting roster though.
EDIT: Team created, The Phin Phighters are ready to have some serious turnover problems.
Ok folks.
This time vampires will join the NuL first time I think.
Name is still not settled.. but we are in for sure!
Yey!
I will join with my new Skaven-team "World of Cheese" and hope for a non-bashing season where a can be brilliant with my Gutter Runners! :D
I will join as well. Probably dark elves but I haven't decided anything.
Heck, I've been idle long enough. A new Vampire team joining up, as well.
- Kez.
Quote from: Kezerk on November 24, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
Heck, I've been idle long enough. A new Vampire team joining up, as well.
- Kez.
Oh hi, that's a new face for me! I joined up season 5 I think, so you must've been active before then?
Quote from: kvasilad on November 25, 2014, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: Kezerk on November 24, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
Heck, I've been idle long enough. A new Vampire team joining up, as well.
- Kez.
Oh hi, that's a new face for me! I joined up season 5 I think, so you must've been active before then?
Well my previous post here was Valhalla Cup Match 10 (in 2011). Dunno which season that was :)
- Kez.
Quote from: Kezerk on November 26, 2014, 12:15:43 AM
Quote from: kvasilad on November 25, 2014, 01:44:19 PM
Quote from: Kezerk on November 24, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
Heck, I've been idle long enough. A new Vampire team joining up, as well.
- Kez.
Oh hi, that's a new face for me! I joined up season 5 I think, so you must've been active before then?
Well my previous post here was Valhalla Cup Match 10 (in 2011). Dunno which season that was :)
- Kez.
Yo Kez welcome back!
Nice to see you here again.. no vamps and then two vamps.
They are fun to play, but they require some extra fondling time to time.
Cheers
Ofcourse im up for the next season!
Team - to be announced 8)
And welcome back to the league Kezerk! :)
/Gnaar
I'm in and I'm going in with Humans, namely "The Emperor's New Boots."
Btw, hello there Kezerk :)
I'm in. Current assumption is High Elf's. New team for me. Will come back later with a firm decision and team name.
I'm also pretty certain Gurgeh want's to join, will let him know later today that the new season is about to start.
/hakos
I will join with a ner team chaos dwarfs will Come back with namn etc.
/Lars
After recent events of barely escaping alive from the sinking ship of the Old World Pirates. Captain Gnaarkill decided to seek his fortune in more lostrous lands, starting a new franchise in the infamous blood bowl league, Norsca.
Telling his tale to the Ogres of the Ogre Kingdom, Captain Gnaarkill managed to fool the stupid Ogres into thinking that he in fact is a famous Wrestling promoter. Thus, Gnaarkill managed to become CEO of the Ogre Kingdoms Wrestling Federation. Having all the superstars from the famous OKWF, CEO Gnaarkill finally saw his chance to form his long sought after Blood Bowl team to enter the Norsca stage once again.
CEO Gnaarkill hereby assigns the Ogre Team - Ogre Kingdoms Wrestling Federation (OKWF) to the Norsca Union League.
/CEO Gnaarkill
Hey there. I'll join with gobbos (no league is complete without them!). I'll have limited availability though (weekends only), so I'm cool with staying in reserve and join in case we have an odd number of players, for the good development of the league.
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 04, 2014, 12:33:05 PM
CEO Gnaarkill hereby assigns the Ogre Team - Ogre Kingdoms Wrestling Federation (OKWF) to the Norsca Union League.
Hmm.... Chief Executing Ogre?
Very nice write-up, Gnaarkill, it's always nice to read your texts!
All righty, as the S17 Finals will be played today (7.12.), I guess we can declare Monday December 15th as the preliminary kick-off date for season 18. We'll get the league set up early next week after the final and everybody should get their team in by Sunday the 14th. But let's not set the date in stone, it's December and folks might be running errands for Sandy Claws, so we'll be flexible with the dates if nescessary.
Right now we have 11 sign-ups but we haven't still heard about Mueller or Gurgeh so it could be that we get to 12 or more. I'll also message all registered members a reminder about new season tomorrow.
And finally, about my team. I think I'll be playing with a race that I've only played one half and that was my first ever learning game of Blood Bowl. I've never liked this race much but they have one strength that I'm looking for, so after numerous seasons of av 7 teams I'm going for the high armor and taking... the orcs. So if nobody else will be taking the orcs, the Da Beatmores led by the Fab Four will make their debut into NUL.
Here's the sign-up list once again so that people won't have to go to the first page of thread to check it:
Sign Ups:
1. Kvasilad - The Phin Phighters (Lizardmen)
2. Equilibri - World of Cheese (Skaven)
3. J-Reedy - Da Beatmores (Orcs) - might change if somebody else takes the orcs (as I'm a proponent for diversity with the teams)
4. Mr B - ? (Vampires)
5. The Golden Arrow - ? (Dark Elfs maybe)
6. Kezerk - Kauppaopiston Opet (Vampires)
7. Gnaarkill - Ogre Kingdoms Wrestling Federation (Ogre)
8. Barmution - The Emperor's New Boots (Human)
9. Hakos - FC Excelsior (High Elfs)
10. Lars - ? (Chaos Dwarfs)
11. Luiggi - ? (Goblins)
12. Muller71 - Beerbelly (Dwarfs)
13. ... your name and team here! ...
I will join with dwarfs, name BEERBELLY.
Wow, this is shaping up to be one of the biggest NUL seasons ever ;D
Oh, and good luck with the orcs. I have to say that after 3 seasons, they are my least favourite race I've ever played in Blood Bowl. Probably just me not understanding how to use them effectively, though.
Quote from: kvasilad on December 07, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Wow, this is shaping up to be one of the biggest NUL seasons ever ;D
Oh, and good luck with the orcs. I have to say that after 3 seasons, they are my least favourite race I've ever played in Blood Bowl. Probably just me not understanding how to use them effectively, though.
Orcz rulez! They are my race of choice :)
I might resurrect Orkitis in a couple of seasons when TV gets higher (gobbos life expectancy is rather low, moreso with dwarves around). They are the most average roster you'll find (iirc, only normal rolls, I guess that compensates my skaven and chaos monstruosities of late :D). Good thing is that orcs always perform, they have very solid skill choices without needing doubles or stats (they're always welcome though).
Just constructed the first draft of Da Beatmores roster. I really haven't given these guys much thought as I've had an aversion against them but really seem to be very average as Luiggi said. Blitzers and their progression looks like the key factor. Lots of options for starging roster, but I think I'm going to go for 4+4 blitzers/bobs with 3 rerolls without apo. It's curious that it looks like these guys really don't seem to need linemen so much and I'm even giving though to a starting roster with troll and bunch of gobbos instead of linos. But that might be too risky.
One question about your opinion on the skill progression, Luiggi/Kvasilad, if you don't mind. Looking at the overall team skill set, I'm getting the feeling that guard might be a good choice as a first skill for BOBs instead of block. Or does that slow their proggression down too much in your experience? When I've played against orcs bobs have most of time seemed to be more like roadblocks than serious threat, so I'm thinking guard could be more usefull for them to support the blitzers.
As a Dwarf coach I would be more concerned about Block than Guard as I almost always chose Guard as the first skill for my Longbeards. That'll counter the Orcs' guard, but Block will negate the "Both fall down, except for me" mantra I like as a Dwarf. And I almost always target the BOBs with my Troll Slayers so the STR difference will be negated by that 84% of the time.
- Kez.
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 07, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Just constructed the first draft of Da Beatmores roster. I really haven't given these guys much thought as I've had an aversion against them but really seem to be very average as Luiggi said. Blitzers and their progression looks like the key factor. Lots of options for starging roster, but I think I'm going to go for 4+4 blitzers/bobs with 3 rerolls without apo. It's curious that it looks like these guys really don't seem to need linemen so much and I'm even giving though to a starting roster with troll and bunch of gobbos instead of linos. But that might be too risky.
One question about your opinion on the skill progression, Luiggi/Kvasilad, if you don't mind. Looking at the overall team skill set, I'm getting the feeling that guard might be a good choice as a first skill for BOBs instead of block. Or does that slow their proggression down too much in your experience? When I've played against orcs bobs have most of time seemed to be more like roadblocks than serious threat, so I'm thinking guard could be more usefull for them to support the blitzers.
You probably want to take advice from Luiggi and not me, seeing as he actually wins with these guys, but at least learn from my mistakes: Do NOT pick guard as first skill on BoB's. I did that quite a lot, and I regretted it as the team progressed. AV9 doesn't help you stay upright, just usually in the game. Block helps you stay up, which is the most important thing.
FC Excelsior (High Elf) ready to join NUL
I think kvasilad has a point on Block as first skill for BOBs. IMO they really are the strongest pieces for orcs since they can tie up so many opposing players with their 4 STR and being blockless is one of their big weaknesses (makes rolling 1 dice against them worthwhile with a 50% KD chance).
Given a league with rookie rosters, BOBs shouldn't need guard too early to outbash rivals (or at least fight equally). If lower STR rival players mark them, they're gonna get smacked by BOBs next turn. If they have Block, that means more chances of knocking down and getting cas, so they get SPP. Guard won't give you as many SPP and BOBs really need to hit lvl 3 to make a BIG difference for a very small TV increase. I agree they are great roadblocks but I wouldn't neglect their bashing power... they can get so many favorable dice that they'll rack up casualties, and you want your first LOS hit to be big without devoting some of your Blitzers to the LOS... and that's what BOBs are for :)
Once they all have Block, I generally split Guard and MB so I end up with 2 Block + Guard and 2 Block + MB, to dish out some damage. Generally the MB guys level up faster and can get Guard at lvl 4 while the others catch up. Plan changes a bit in case of doubles or +STR. I like to give one of them dodge if I get the chance for increased annoyance to the opposition (there are not many 4 STR dudes with Tackle).
If you want Guard (and trust me, with orcs you WANT GUARD), 1 or 2 Blitzers with it should be enough at first because they have good mobility (for orcs, at least) and can help out in melees alongside the BOBs.
As far as the Troll goes, personally I'm not a very big fan of him due to his unreliability. Sometimes you might even be tempted to misplace your other players to get the +2 on Really Stupid rolls. And unlike Wild Animal, he will lose his precious Tackle Zones on a bad roll, leaving you exposed. Generally you will outstrengthen most teams and he becomes a TV bloat and a liability. Linemen on the other hand are great for fouling and as fodder for opposing big guys.
However, he is a hell of a roadblock, once you get him Stand Firm and Guard, along with Regen, he will be able to limit the opposition's offensive choices. The other bonus is the possibility of a 1 turner, it's up to personal preference to consider it worth it or not.
Of course this is just my personal experience, this is what has worked for me but it doesn't mean it's the "right way to go".
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 07, 2014, 08:11:56 AM
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6. Kezerk - ? (Vampires)
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Kauppaopiston Opet is the name of the team.
Opinions much appreciated Luiggi, Kvasi and Kez. Yeah, block may be the safer route to go. Of course all this is speculation, it all depends on the so many factors like schedule and rolls but I'm guessing block is the way to go with basic rolls.
BTW, "Kauppapiston Opet", that's "Business Institute Teachers" for all you not familiar with that beautiful language called Finnish.
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OFFICIAL BULLETIN
ALL RIGHT FOLKS! Season 17 is now officially over and I kicked all those bloated teams from the Nul: Feeder league. So you can start putting in your fresh rookie teams, the password is the familiar "campnul". The league is now 12 teams but we can expand that if nescessary so all new and oldcomers are still welcome!
The deadline for signing in the teams will be Sunday the 14th as we'll be aiming to kick-off on the 15th.
Will create my team tonight
Quote from: J-Reedy on December 05, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Hmm.... Chief Executing Ogre?
Very nice write-up, Gnaarkill, it's always nice to read your texts!
Hehe! You bet! 8)
Thank you J-R, i'm learning from the master ;D
Dark Souls II just joined, as I finished the game on PS3 I'd like to contribute to this "fangtastic" game!
GobDogs ready for action!
Hakos said I probably wanted to join, and part of me do, but a larger part of me doesn't really have time right now. I will be on the lookout for the next season. Good luck and have fun.
/tobias
I've signed up with my dark elf team "Discworld Allstars". I wanted to do a more humoristic theme this time and I don't care if it doesn't suit dark elves perfectly :)
Quite a daring move, IMHO, to recruit a dwarf into an elf team, even a tall adopted one. But I'm sure Captain Carrot will do fine.
Oh, no... they have Captain CARROT! There go my chances of winning.
- Kez.
Well there are no elves so I think that should be fine. Carrot will hold have to hold the line, he will after all have to try to teach your players to be nice and that fighting is wrong :)
Haha brilliant theme TGA! ;D
Also want to say the the OKWF have signed in and are standing ready to enter the ring!
DO YOU SMEEELL! WHAT THE OGRE.... IS COOKING!?
Quote from: Gnaarkill on December 11, 2014, 07:51:05 PM
Also want to say the the OKWF have signed in and are standing ready to enter the ring!
DO YOU SMEEELL! WHAT THE OGRE.... IS COOKING!?
Hahaha!
In my head they're six 8 feet tall Macho Man Randy Savages from now on :D
Quote from: Barmution on December 12, 2014, 09:42:25 AM
Hahaha!
In my head they're six 8 feet tall Macho Man Randy Savages from now on :D
Macho Ogre, mind you! ;)
Actually only 4 Ogres at the moment. Figured i had to get alot of rerolls to begin with since they double in price after team creation. And I also started with a APO, im scared to death that without and APO one of my Ogres will die and then im screwed.
So, alot of snotlings at the moment :P. But it's a long time strategy, more wrestlers will soon enter the OKWF and we will soon be the biggest entertainment franchise in history! 8)
Just joined, seems I'm the last one in, so let the game begin!
Season started..
good luck fellas
Dang you. Any chance of Season 18 forum opening up soon so that games can be arranged.
- Kez.
Working on the S18 forum right now, should be up and running in half an hour or so at the latest.